petition to make almost husbands the ship name for john/dorian
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Okay, here’s the thing. The fact that you accuse me of using “shipper goggles” means you have not read any of the posts I made regarding this subject before. I understand, this is the internet, we’re all busy. No one got time for reading anymore.
But what Haley and Hoechlin said is what they were told to play it convincingly and also to keep a lid on spoilers, especially Haley. The important thing here is this:
Jeff Davis confirmed that there was magical influence in the sex. The show itself implied though never outright stated that the Darach used the magical power of the virgins to get Derek to sleep with her. Derek seemed drugged/confused in many of his scenes with her and unusually pliant. Angela Harvey, even though she refused to call it what it is, also confirmed that the virgin sacrifices gave Julia the power to “seduce” Derek.
Rape isn’t just a stranger violently forcing themselves on an unsuspecting, struggling victim. Rape is any sexual intercourse in which one party was not able or willing to consent. Magical mind-whammy is not consent. It doesn’t matter what it looked like or what the actors tell themselves to sleep at night or what writers call it or don’t call it. Magically coerced sex is rape.
And in fact, this does not preclude anyone having real feelings either. Ask me about my own history sometimes, or maybe really just read back a couple of days where I posted the reasons I connect with Derek Hale.
Forget the magic for five seconds.
Derek was bleeding out and mortally wounded, going in and out of consciousness. Jennifer was using magic to try and get the rest of his pack, and one of the Alpha Twins, to kill themselves. She was lying to him about who she was and her intentions about their relationship.
I really feel like I can’t emphasis the fact that moments before they had sex, Derek was slipping in and out of consciousness, and had just willingly thrown himself off a ledge intending to kill himself to keep Scott alive.
Even without the magic involved, Derek was in NO WAY in any form capable of giving consent to sex. Never mind informed consent.
And then you take up the fact that Jennifer’s sacrifices gave her the power to seduce him and that every scene they were in together he was acting like he was roofied, yes their sex scene was essentially a rape scene. Call it Dub-Con if you absolutely must, but don’t try to act like they were in a real relationship or that their sex was between two perfectly consenting adults.
This scene was squicky as hell for me in all kinds of ways, and then I try to explain it to someone and realize it gets even worse when I say “imagine if their sexes were reversed” and suddenly it feels ten times more disgusting (which is a massive problem on its own) but illustrates it even better.
Pretty much everything about it is gross and that has literally nothing to do with shipping. I wish they would acknowledge this, and the fact that they haven’t really upsets me. I especially hate that it even implies, however unknowingly, that it’s okay for a woman to do to a man. It’s not okay in any way, shape or form, regardless of who they are or what their feelings are - he was in absolutely no shape to give consent then, or in 99% of their interactions from the looks of it, but no one’s (aside from fandom) batting an eye.
ALL OF THIS! (Oh God Don’t EVEN get me started on all of he ways Derek has been the victim of rape or non-sexual non-consensual uses of his body that’s pretty fucking rape-like that ISNT ACKNOWLEDGED!)